Does practice make perfect?
If you take your shows seriously, they can function as practices, right? I don’t mean having a nerve-wracking, “gotta do it right” mindset. But if everyone is bringing their own personal stakes to the show, regardless of whether the venue is free and we’re in front of mostly our friends, they’re going to push themselves to perform at the top of their games.
If you perform once a week, and get notes after every show, then I’d buy the argument that you don’t need an additional practice if you are in maintenance mode. If you’d just doing the same show week to week and not learning anything new, that is a reasonable way to operate.
If you want your group to try something new, you must practice. If you have any respect for your audience, you won’t charge them money to watch you try to figure out how to do an Eventé for the first time. Even if everybody in your group knows the form, until you’ve performed it together at least once, you don’t know how to perform it together at all.
Also though, we need to do a better job of reaching outside of the improv community to grow our audiences for these independent shows. Performing for other improvisers is fun, but it starts to feel like we’re a bunch of kids putting on plays in our parents’ living room. Makes it both harder and more important to feel those personal stakes.
Agreed. I printed 500 cards to promote Fat Penguin’s USM show. I’m honestly not 100% sure what I should be doing with them.
Fact is, no indie team gets notes after performing (correct me if I’m wrong). I really don’t think doing shows, even if you take it seriously (difficult to do with the let’s-fuck-around atmosphere at a lot of these shows), can really work as practice. No exercises, personal or otherwise. A audience that will be a lot easier on you than a coach ever would be and likely will reward you for quick-laugh moves. I’m concerned that no-practice groups, fuck-around shows, etc. could possibly lead to a feedback loop in which the bar is continually lowered as far as what “good improv” is.
I feel The Creek is a mixed blessing that way. While it’s cool that more shows are happening, there’s also literally no stakes, as no money is involved on either side (audience or those running the show). Don’t get me wrong, I love The Creek. It’s nearby for me, it’s fun, and my friends are always there. But golly, does it EVER feel like there’s any consequences for a bad show? No angry audience for paying for that, no having to pay for low attendance.
Brett’s tumblarity has to be out of control right now.
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johnnymcnulty reblogged this from digsyfinallyhasa and added:
Yeah I meant to respond to this awhile ago, but I suck at tumblr: With regards to the improv “does practice matter”...
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a conversation with Brett...reminded me of a few things. Some of the best improv
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I’ve been looking for a point to jump in this truly amazing series of threads. I agree with this sentiment. If I ever...
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I’m not at the Creek that much, but if I am and you see me and want someone to take notes for a show, I am ALWAYS happy...
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I agree with everything said here. I don’t think it HAS to be low stakes at The Creek. But it almost always is. And the...
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khealywu reblogged this from benjaminapple and added:
TOO MANY THREADS OF CONVERSATION. I will add that one of my biggest peeves starting out was the reticence of coaches to...
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benjaminapple reblogged this from brianglidewell and added:
I’ve had coaches...came to watch and give notes. Especially for SMIRK - Russ comes out...
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annarubanova reblogged this from adambozarth and added:
Without making fun of Bozarth for all his metaphors, I agree. I think practice makes better, and living life helps, and...
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khealywu reblogged this from nicolemarietherese and added:
Whoa-kay. It’s been a long time since I’ve been on a team that regularly rehearsed. Over a year now. I honestly hate not...
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We try to. (It’s tough...we’re in-between having
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vaov reblogged this from nicolemarietherese and added:
It IS HIGH Stakes everywhere! This thread made me anxious. My one year at UCB will be soon and I’m finding hard to have...
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YOU GUYS NICOLE REMEMBERS US
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nicolemarietherese reblogged this from chrisreblogs and added:
Yup. It’s totally an attitude thing. If memory serves, doing We Can’t Live in a Cave
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Up 141 from yesterday. accomplished.
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chrisreblogs reblogged this from brianglidewell and added:
Sometimes they get notes. Some coaches go above...beyond. But yes… very very rare.
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Fact is, no indie team gets notes after performing (correct me if I’m wrong). I really don’t think doing shows, even if...
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turn this into a Fat Penguin Love thread, but...seperately draw attention to the fact...
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week, and get notes after every...argument that you don’t need an additional practice if...
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fat person losing weight. He exercises every day but sees no change. He goes through a series
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If you take your shows seriously, they can function as practices, right? I don’t mean having a nerve-wracking, “gotta do...
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has already been said but I’m just tossing...5 cents (probably closer to 27 cents). Also...
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Me too, which is why I’m annoyed you’ve got Improv Resource Center mixed up...Tumblr...
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agree with this....once you’ve reached...certain point,...
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This whole thread has been pretty great. Five points…...miss Zuleyka rehearsals, not...
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Daddy was growing weekly in Shannon’s class. Boom. My honor has been defended. So back off Drespel. (Come over to my...
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last summer, Brett? And...totally agree. Too many projects means we lack focus. But it’s...
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halinanewberrygrant reblogged this from frankhejl and added:
most important thing...off, rehearsal or performance. it’s so easy to get lazy
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digsyfinallyhasa reblogged this from shortbreadsh and added:
If everyone’s on 3 teams and in a class, that’s tough. Maybe we shouldn’t be on so many teams.
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First of all - I love us, you guys. Second of all - I only skimmed everyone else’s posts. Third of all - Yup.
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regular rehearsals...important. To me,...us are good enough...
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is also something I have...that improvteams.com has highlighted, along
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Oh boy, here comes a long ass rant. I’ve...wondering this myself. I think the way I’ve...
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Some interesting thoughts here. On one hand,...is fun, and we should revel
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larhunter reblogged this from digsyfinallyhasa and added:
really believe that rehearsing is crucial....not only helps build
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